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'eBay' prohibits textbooks for homeschool teachers!
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Question:
A new policy by Internet trading behemoth eBay that bans homeschool
teachers' texts from its auctions is prompting a tirade of complaints
from the company's faithful customers. (Have they had your message?)
"Really the homeschooling community is a huge participant in eBay when
you get to thinking about it," said one customer who was identified as
''angels*wings'' on an eBay blog. "We buy textbooks naturally but we
also purchase items like microscopes, slides, globes, maps,
manipulatives, educational games, reading books, supplies for our
classrooms ... stickers, idea books, folders, sheet protectors, school
supplies, software, educational movies, models, post cards ... the list
is enormous."
The policy, which is inclusive of all teachers' texts, was made known
recently as those who were auctioning various books watched as their
postings were deleted.
Another homeschooler on the blog said she questioned eBay when her
listings were cancelled.
"They told me that it fell under their heading of 'illegal, dangerous,
offensive, or potentially infringing,'" she said. "What are they
thinking? I have a mess of curriculum here that I can't sell, and
needing money from it to buy curriculum for the new school year."
The response from the company was posted for others to see.
"As you may know, eBay does not permit items that are illegal,
dangerous, offensive, or potentially infringing. Additionally, eBay has
just recently made the decision to prohibit the sale of Teacher's
Editions of textbooks and solutions manuals that are intended solely
for use by teachers. Since eBay strives to be a level-playing field,
all Teacher's Edition textbooks, manuals and guides will be covered
under this policy. Unfortunately, home schooling Teacher's Editions are
not exempt from this policy and this policy will apply to all grade
levels."
The company continued that those products often contain "special answer
keys, exams, teaching tips, and guides."
And, it noted, "multiple organizations and publishers have voiced their
concern to us over such books that may only be purchased through
educational institutions by teachers."
"Where do they get off telling me that I don't have the right to buy,
sell, or own a teacher's manual??? How could I teach my children
without it???" another blogger asked.
Still another reported having a few 2006 teachers' edition textbooks
for college classes pulled from the site.
"Now I'm stuck with them," the writer said.
"We are a major buying and selling force on eBay & once I got to
thinking of all the things we purchase just for ourselves and our
school it's amazing," said Angelwings. "I'm in the same boat as many of
you....I've got three grade levels of books here I need to sell in
order to purchase our supplies for next year."
WorldNetDaily did not get an immediate response from eBay about the
situation. The website accepts e-mail questions but responds in 24-48
hours.
Its website explanation is straightforward.
"Teacher's editions of textbooks and solutions manuals that are
intended solely for use by teachers are not permitted by eBay."
And it notifies users that "listing cancellation, forfeit of eBay fees
on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges, account
suspension" are all possible results.
"As a homeschooler I believe this directly discriminates against me
since I have used Ebay numerous times to both buy and sell homeschool
curricula. As a budget conscious homeschooling mother I like to buy
used materials as often as possible. This means buying the teacher's
materials used on Ebay and purchasing new workbooks directly from the
publisher or distributor," Dana wrote.
eBay did offer a recourse for further concerns:
"We appreciate the fact that you may disagree with eBay's decision to
establish this policy. If you would like to see these policies change,
or have suggestions on how to make the site better, you may want to
submit your feelings by completing the form at the following URL."
eBay's overview of prohibited items includes animals, artifacts,
autographed items, academic software, bootleg recordings, credit cards,
drugs and paraphernalia, government IDs, lockpicking devices, human
remains, police-related items, used clothing and used cosmetics, among
others.
One blogger noted that public school interests have been opposing
homeschooling more and more, as homeschooling has grown substantially
in recent years. Recent estimates have put homeschool attendance in the
U.S. at more than 2.5 million. And the same comment noted book
publishers also dislike having the products re-sold.
A public school teacher defended the policy, saying she cannot get a
teacher's edition from a publisher unless she provides proof of her
teaching employment. "It is quite costly for publishers to research and
develop curricula and it is copyrighted."
But there also are other auctions that do allow the sale of homeschool
texts. One location, which does require purchasers to be 18, is
Schoolbookauction.com. Another one is Homeschoolbid.com and observers
said there are many more available through an Internet search.
The Home School Legal Defense Association said it was aware of the
situation.
"We have received many complaints about the eBay policy and we are
actively working on a solution," Media Relations Director Ian Slatter
told WND. That group is the largest organization of homeschoolers in
the United States, with more than 80,000 member families.
Answer: - Nothing to do with home schooling. Everything to do with people
harvesting and selling other people's resources.
- Is a book a license? Are we granted the right to use it? Are the copyright
holders entitled to control over how you sell the product once you have
bought it? Are second hand book stores "harvesting and selling other
people's resources"?
- Ebay received a lot of complaints from teachers worldwide when it was
discovered that online books, worksheets and other resources, produced
and made freely available have been harvested and sold. It is these
that the policy refers to.
You can still sell secondhand books. That's different.
- I find it really unlikely that this has anything to do with
homeschooling per se. I suspect it's mostly because it's considered
undesirable for teacher's texts (with the answer keys to problem sets)
be freely available to any kid who can operate a computer. Does this
ban apply only to 'homeschool' teacher's texts or to any teacher's
texts?
- The policy refers to 'all Teacher's Edition textbooks, manuals and
guides'.
- Maybe the education system over here is not quite as stale and two
dimensional. We dont have 'teacher' and 'student' versions of text books,
the teachers are expected to teach, not read from a crib sheet.
It would matter not one jot if students over here had access to such
information, GCSEs and A-Levels teach students to think for themselves,
students are positively encouraged to investigate as many sources of
information as possible. I have to say, an exam that can be passed by
looking at the teachers crib sheet is a pathetic exam.
This about control. Control of the 'after sales' market has always being the
copyright holders holy grail. Sony are trying to do it with video games and
music, Microsoft do it with their software, and now the book publishers are
trying to get in on the act.
Once it is mine, it is mine, and I will sell it on, burn it, or dispose of
it how I see fit, when I no longer have use for it.
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